jack lew must never be treasury secretary. his testimony before the senate budget committee less than two years ago was so outrageous and false that it alone disqualifies. jack lew is not that man. >> well, i guess if jeff sessions represented the majority party, his words there might have a little more bite than they do. jack lew actually in truth is the least controversial of the nominees we're going to talk about tonight. he is very liberal. no question about that. he has come up through the ranks starting in tip o'neil's office in years ago on the democratic side of the party. capable. knows the numbers. has the president's trust. even though he has offended some republicans by his behavior in the negotiations, president likes him. they won't go to the matt over this. >> bret: chuck hagel, charles? >> here from the two leading hagel indicators. schumer on the democrats and mccain on the republican. he is from new york. unequivocal. if he goes with hagel in the end, hagel will be approved. as for mccain, his issue is more i